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		<title>By: juvegirl</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 18:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi!
I&#039;m Canadian and non-Muslim, non-Arab and I&#039;m learning Arabic.

I&#039;m about where you are with my learning, numbers, letters, a few phrases.  It will probably take a very long time to learn, since like english, there are many different ways to say the same things, and there are many different dialects to choose from.

If you&#039;re willing to learn egyptian dialect only, it would be easier.  Most movies are made in egypt, a lot of the music comes from there and most of the books/tapes are made for that dialect.  If you want to learn Formal Arabic (like I do)...good luck.   Although most Arabic speakers will know it, they will constantly revert to their dialect without meaning to.  The person I&#039;m learning Arabic for (for lack of a better way of putting it) is Iraqi, but my instructor is Lebanese.  So I get on the phone with &quot;Guess what I learned?!&quot; and I hear &quot;That&#039;s not exactly right...&quot;

If you can go to Berlitz for a month, I think you&#039;d be done in a flash.  LiveMocha (.com) is free but doesn&#039;t currenlty have enough people wanting to learn Arabic to offer classes, although it will set you up with native Arabic speakers (maybe if enough people will join they&#039;ll do lessons?  Maybe some of you Arab speaker could offer to help design lessons?)  Rosetta Stone is supposedly good, but I haven&#039;t tried it.

If you&#039;re Muslim, many mosques will offer instruction.  I don&#039;t know if they are open for non-Muslims.  I currently attend a secular class, but it is just a beginner, and I will have to find someone to teach me after that.

You can try your local university.  You may be able to find an Arabic speaker who will tutor you one-on-one.  Students are generally poor, and if they&#039;ve immigrated, they may welcome the chance to make friends with someone local.  You could offer some $ and tours around the area as compensation for the lessons.

Good luck to you.  Since we&#039;re in similar situations, I&#039;d love to know how things go with you and to share tips.  Inshallah we will be both soon learn all we wish to know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi!<br />
I&#8217;m Canadian and non-Muslim, non-Arab and I&#8217;m learning Arabic.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m about where you are with my learning, numbers, letters, a few phrases.  It will probably take a very long time to learn, since like english, there are many different ways to say the same things, and there are many different dialects to choose from.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re willing to learn egyptian dialect only, it would be easier.  Most movies are made in egypt, a lot of the music comes from there and most of the books/tapes are made for that dialect.  If you want to learn Formal Arabic (like I do)&#8230;good luck.   Although most Arabic speakers will know it, they will constantly revert to their dialect without meaning to.  The person I&#8217;m learning Arabic for (for lack of a better way of putting it) is Iraqi, but my instructor is Lebanese.  So I get on the phone with &quot;Guess what I learned?!&quot; and I hear &quot;That&#8217;s not exactly right&#8230;&quot;</p>
<p>If you can go to Berlitz for a month, I think you&#8217;d be done in a flash.  LiveMocha (.com) is free but doesn&#8217;t currenlty have enough people wanting to learn Arabic to offer classes, although it will set you up with native Arabic speakers (maybe if enough people will join they&#8217;ll do lessons?  Maybe some of you Arab speaker could offer to help design lessons?)  Rosetta Stone is supposedly good, but I haven&#8217;t tried it.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re Muslim, many mosques will offer instruction.  I don&#8217;t know if they are open for non-Muslims.  I currently attend a secular class, but it is just a beginner, and I will have to find someone to teach me after that.</p>
<p>You can try your local university.  You may be able to find an Arabic speaker who will tutor you one-on-one.  Students are generally poor, and if they&#8217;ve immigrated, they may welcome the chance to make friends with someone local.  You could offer some $ and tours around the area as compensation for the lessons.</p>
<p>Good luck to you.  Since we&#8217;re in similar situations, I&#8217;d love to know how things go with you and to share tips.  Inshallah we will be both soon learn all we wish to know.</p>
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		<title>By: Waqas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Waqas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 18:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For a Pakistani like me

I bet only a couple of Months</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a Pakistani like me</p>
<p>I bet only a couple of Months</p>
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		<title>By: ßℓµє ê¥є∂ мµ§ℓ!мαн</title>
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		<dc:creator>ßℓµє ê¥є∂ мµ§ℓ!мαн</dc:creator>
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		<description>ive heard that the rosetta stone is the absolute easiest way of doing it proficiently........ knowing the alphabet will help you a lot of course, as will being around people speaking it. but reading, since you know the alphabet, helps a lot as well, reading ANYTHING.. i read things on boxes to help me, or ill walk around the house and just try to figure out what this or that says ( we have a lot of stuff in arabic on the walls everywhere ) and before long, you&#039;ll have quite a few &quot;sight&quot; words down (mashaAllah, inshaAllah, alhamdulillah, assalamualiakum). 

so really i think it just depends on how badly you want to learn it. i have heard of a sister (mashaAllah, subhanAllah..)  in new york who after only 3 years as a muslim was teaching quran to people who had been muslim their entire lives, she had such a quick love for the language and the deen that she literally learned it almost overnight from the amount of studying and repetition that she did, and she got it very quick, mashaAllah. so anyone can do it.. ive lived in an arab house for uh like.. 5 or almost 5 years now here with my inlaws and im still nowhere near &quot;fluent&quot; and i can also understand a whole lot more than i can speak, but im incredibly lazy at it until here recently. its sad to me that i realize its been 5 years now and i could probably be reading a lot more than i can , faster than i can, and speaking better than i can.. but with 3 little kids under 5 its not really that easy to sit and have study time :) good luck to u</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ive heard that the rosetta stone is the absolute easiest way of doing it proficiently&#8230;&#8230;.. knowing the alphabet will help you a lot of course, as will being around people speaking it. but reading, since you know the alphabet, helps a lot as well, reading ANYTHING.. i read things on boxes to help me, or ill walk around the house and just try to figure out what this or that says ( we have a lot of stuff in arabic on the walls everywhere ) and before long, you&#8217;ll have quite a few &quot;sight&quot; words down (mashaAllah, inshaAllah, alhamdulillah, assalamualiakum). </p>
<p>so really i think it just depends on how badly you want to learn it. i have heard of a sister (mashaAllah, subhanAllah..)  in new york who after only 3 years as a muslim was teaching quran to people who had been muslim their entire lives, she had such a quick love for the language and the deen that she literally learned it almost overnight from the amount of studying and repetition that she did, and she got it very quick, mashaAllah. so anyone can do it.. ive lived in an arab house for uh like.. 5 or almost 5 years now here with my inlaws and im still nowhere near &quot;fluent&quot; and i can also understand a whole lot more than i can speak, but im incredibly lazy at it until here recently. its sad to me that i realize its been 5 years now and i could probably be reading a lot more than i can , faster than i can, and speaking better than i can.. but with 3 little kids under 5 its not really that easy to sit and have study time <img src='http://free-onlinecourses.info/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  good luck to u</p>
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		<title>By: rsh393</title>
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		<description>It really depends on your personal proficiency with learning languages.  With immersion, fluency takes about 5-7 years (if I remember correctly).  But proficiency could take less time, obviously, and if you put extra time into studying (500+ hours), you&#039;re well on your way.

As far as classes, I don&#039;t have personal experience with Arabic classes (I&#039;ve had spanish, french, and hebrew, but no arabic yet), but i would recommend courses that emphasize conversational skills so you really train your ear and your accent. If you can&#039;t get out to an Arabic-speaking country after you&#039;ve gotten proficient, work the internet!  Buy some legit Arabic music, and I&#039;m sure you can find newscasts/tv shows/etc. in Arabic on the internet to help train your ear. And talk to your profs, they&#039;ll probably have the best advice.

Congrats, I&#039;ve wanted to learn Arabic for a while, so I&#039;m a bit jealous! It&#039;s a beautiful language :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It really depends on your personal proficiency with learning languages.  With immersion, fluency takes about 5-7 years (if I remember correctly).  But proficiency could take less time, obviously, and if you put extra time into studying (500+ hours), you&#8217;re well on your way.</p>
<p>As far as classes, I don&#8217;t have personal experience with Arabic classes (I&#8217;ve had spanish, french, and hebrew, but no arabic yet), but i would recommend courses that emphasize conversational skills so you really train your ear and your accent. If you can&#8217;t get out to an Arabic-speaking country after you&#8217;ve gotten proficient, work the internet!  Buy some legit Arabic music, and I&#8217;m sure you can find newscasts/tv shows/etc. in Arabic on the internet to help train your ear. And talk to your profs, they&#8217;ll probably have the best advice.</p>
<p>Congrats, I&#8217;ve wanted to learn Arabic for a while, so I&#8217;m a bit jealous! It&#8217;s a beautiful language <img src='http://free-onlinecourses.info/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: 2paCreed</title>
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		<description>For a Pakistani like Waqas. I bet only a couple years/lives.. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a Pakistani like Waqas. I bet only a couple years/lives.. <img src='http://free-onlinecourses.info/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ~~رامي~~</title>
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		<description>few months, counting if you are immersed into arabic.

if you are taking classes, then you will take a little longer, like a few semesters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>few months, counting if you are immersed into arabic.</p>
<p>if you are taking classes, then you will take a little longer, like a few semesters.</p>
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		<title>By: Dede</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dede</dc:creator>
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		<description>I have learned Arabic but you are talking fluency. Classes or lessons take a LONG time IF you don&#039;t have anyone to speak Arabic with. I studied in classes many times over the years but only really learned when I lived overseas and was forced to speak it daily for every need. There are many courses but if you don&#039;t have to use it, you will not retain much of it and it will take a long time and you will NEVER be fluent without using it regularly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have learned Arabic but you are talking fluency. Classes or lessons take a LONG time IF you don&#8217;t have anyone to speak Arabic with. I studied in classes many times over the years but only really learned when I lived overseas and was forced to speak it daily for every need. There are many courses but if you don&#8217;t have to use it, you will not retain much of it and it will take a long time and you will NEVER be fluent without using it regularly.</p>
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